Posts Tagged ‘torture’

If any of you received emails from Harry Reid during the primaries, you will recall that he referred to himself as “Give ’em hell Harry.” Well, he is really giving those Republicans hell. They have all been making a lot of noise about closing Gitmo, and about how very dangerous it would be to house those superhuman detainees in our maximum security prisons. And the detainees would be in peak physical and mental condition after years of torture and isolation.

So how does Harry respond?

REID: I’m saying that the United States Senate, Democrats and Republicans, do not want terrorists to be released in the United States. That’s very clear.

QUESTION: No one’s talking about releasing them. We’re talking about putting them in prison somewhere in the United States.

REID: Can’t put them in prison unless you release them.

QUESTION: Sir, are you going to clarify that a little bit? …

REID: I can’t make it any more clear than the statement I have given to you. We will never allow terrorists to be released in the United States.

Brilliant, Harry. We knew we could count on you for both courage and clarity.

Glenn Greenwald has a great blog on the closing Gitmo debate, aka the Dumbest Moment in Congressional History, called, “Terrorists in prison: Is there anything the Right doesn’t fear?” And his tweet on Harry is perfect:

Reid’s last book was titled (absurdly) “Fighting the Good Fight.” Maybe his next one can be: “Hiding Under my Bed.”


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Digby has posted the full text of David Broder’s April 26 piece called, “Stop Scapegoating.” It is an appalling argument, one Glenn Greenwald has rightly called “a tour de force of Beltway sickness – even for him.” Here is a representative excerpt from Broder’s response to calls for investigations into those who justified and ordered torture:

. . . now Obama is being lobbied by politicians and voters who want something more — the humiliation and/or punishment of those responsible for the policies of the past. They are looking for individual scalps — or, at least, careers and reputations.

Their argument is that without identifying and punishing the perpetrators, there can be no accountability — and therefore no deterrent lesson for future administrations. It is a plausible-sounding rationale, but it cloaks an unworthy desire for vengeance.

The “voters” to Broder are those over-emotional filthy masses who cannot see reason and will erupt into violence at any moment. They want vengeance, you see. Not justice. What justice would it be to make our political class accountable for their grotesque crimes?

Broder has a long history of making such specious arguments on behalf of the powerful. As Digby shows, Broder was defending Richard Nixon in 1969 against those miscreants who wanted to “break the President.”

This, bizarrely, is how Broder then described the anti-war movement:

There is . . . a vital distinction . . . to be made between the constitutionally protected expression of dissent, aimed at changing national policy, and mass movements aimed at breaking the President by destroying his capacity to lead the nation or to represent it at the bargaining table.

Anyone familiar with Doonesbury will remember the anti-Vietnam war student, “Megaphone” Mark Slackmeyer, who threatened the Establishment with protests, the occupation of the university president’s building, and the like. Thirty years later, Slackmeyer has yet another kind of establishment to contend with.

Slackmeyer Returns

Slackmeyer Returns

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There have been complaints in the blogosphere that Chuck Todd is being his usual hackish self in trivializing the discussion of torture, calling it a “political food fight” and blaming the so-called “hard left and hard right” for making a big deal over nothing.

It’s not his fault. He can’t help simply repeating what other pundits say. Because journalism isn’t his field — he is actually that guy that manages Flight of the Conchords.

Murray talks about how tough life is

Murray at a meeting with Brett and Jemaine.

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The babyfaced crypto-fascist former head of the, uh, Christian Coalition has been spending his time defending the practice of torture with Sean Hannity.

So, let’s see now.

Waterboarding–well, it was only for 30-40 seconds at a time, pffft. And you know, we only did it to the three worst terrists. And by the way, the waterboarding led to accurate info!

No one was  sleep deprived for more than 72 hours. I did more than that cramming for exams in grad school . . . chuckle   guffaw

And let’s put this in context — there are attacks being planned right now, and torturing keeps us safe, and the torturers should be honored . . .

OK, Ralph. I’ll put aside the fact that not one of these statements is true. I just wonder where it is in the New Testament that Jesus puts electrodes on anyone’s testicles or sets dogs on naked men. Do get back to me on that.

But I suppose it’s OK, really. We can do these things to, you know, brown people.  Like Jesus.

Reed addresses his flock

Reed addresses his flock

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On ABC News’ “This Week With George Stephanopoulos,” Peggy Noonan, discussing the recent release of the torture memos, said,

It’s hard for me to look at a great nation issuing these documents and sending them out to the world and thinking, oh, much good will come of that.

Some things in life need to be mysterious . . . Sometimes you need to just keep walking.

Russ Feingold said he never heard anything quite as disturbing. Disturbing, Senator?  How about monstrous? or batshit crazy?

I wonder if anything can change her mind . . .

Some things should be mysterious

Some things should be mysterious

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